Tuesday, 1 January 2008

Winter of the Lost : Part 7 : Conclusion!

OK, here is the final part of this classic story folks!

Kyle falls to the ground and rolls down the bank. Ben fears the worst:
"Oh no. Kyle....."
Katie grabs his arm:
"Never mind him, that lot are heading this way, lets run!"
They run down the bank however Ben stops to check Kyle.
"Leave him for ****'s sake and come on!"
Katie shouts, however Ben is annoyed:
"Look, I can't just leave Kyle like that, you go on!"
Katie mutters "Damn fool" as she and Anselm run up the other side of the bank and out of the monument. Ben is shocked as Kyle opens his eyes:
"Look I'm ok Ben, that bullet only grazed me. Now make out I'm dead like, I know what I'm doin'."

Thalisa, Yates and the others surround Ben and Kyle . Thalisa grins.
"So you thought you could stop me, earthboy. Well soon your planet will be home to my people. See how I control the minds of these dolts. Your planet is too good for such an inferior species!"
Others in the Cult of the Sun have caught up with Katie & Anselm and march them back down the slope.
"Ha! The other surviving wreckers have been reigned in. Ha Ha!" Thalisa gloats.
Kyle leaps up suddenly and tackles her to the ground, catching her offguard. The gun flies out of her hand in Katie's direction. She picks it up:
"Die bitch!" Katie shouts, shooting Thalisa. The gun fires and Thalisa staggers, glowing and turning into an alien globular thing with tentacles, before evaporating.Freed from Thalisa's mind spell, the others in the Cult of the Sun look around bewildered.

Back at the house, Ben and the others are enjoying what remains of the Christmas turkey and discussing the events.
"... of course it means a major dig be undertaken at Danebury under UNIT supervision to unearth all of that technology." Ben muses.
Kyle is curious:
"Why did they like bury it there in the iron age and only use it now?"
Anselm tuts.
"Obviously they search out planets for colonisation well in advance, only calling on their use when the need arises." Ben answers.
Anselm puts his arm around Ben and gazes lovingly into Ben's deep, dreamy eyes, moving aside his luscious blonde locks.Ben raises a glass:
"I propose a toast to us all for saving the planet."
"Here here," Lord Ashford seconds.
Following the toast, they switch on the tv to see the real Kylie performing on the Christmas Top of the Pops.
"I wonder if I will ever get to meet the real Kylie. Only time will tell." Ben muses......


...... the END

37 comments:

Scyther Slitheen said...

Much better then the others, your best yet IMO

It has all the uesually flaws, like crap dialog and terribel charaters like Anselm (He just seems like a slightly less anoyying clone of Ben)

However there are some nice things in it. I like the fact Ben cares for Kyle, its one of the rare ocasions when we get to see some human emotion in Ben. His relationship with Anselm though seems to rushed and unbilevabel IMO.

Kyle is fantastic as allways, though I feel sorry for him as he seems to not get any credit for being so brave

I really think you should ditch Ben for a while and conitrate on Kyle

Katie is as anoying as ever, she is an extreamly unlikabel charter and this story is a good exampel of why.

Its to bad you allready spoilt the suprise of Kylie being a shapeshifter

One of the main problems I have is how underuesed and how wrong Yates charter is. His so out of charater even when under control, and apart from the mind controll line you dont explain anything on how he got there and why he is there.

Still, not as bad as it could have been

Andrew said...

what happened to the policemen and the body they found in part 4? Who got killed?

Ben is too stupid to spot that Kyle is being clever, and Katie saves the day by shooting the baddie. Ben looks bad, and the ending sucks.

A bad story with unresolved loose ends and a crap central character. Ben should be killed off and Kyle should take over imo.

Andrew said...

oh, and why is it called Winter of The Lost?

Youth of Australia said...

I thought TOTPs was cancelled ages ago. The only things on Christmas to watch are Doctor Who and Eastenders...

And is the full title "WINTER OF THosE who have LOST the plot"?

Seems to apply to most of the characters. You know, what really bugs me is that you never have the balls to stick to your guns.

You have Kylie fall in love with Ben and turn evil. The public complain. So, suddenly, it's not the real Kylie at all.

You have Mike Yates lead the Cult of the Sun. The public complain. Then it's some alien who's brainwashed him and he's forgotten. He might as well have not been in it.

Ben is being a corrupt arsehole for Lord Ashford Ashworth Ashdore, but when the public complain, the whole garden thing is completely forgotten.

It's like Herne the Hunter and OD all over again.

YOU HAVE NO SPINE, SPARACUS!

STICK TO YOUR GUNS IN FUTURE.

btw, I've finished Winter of the Lust.

evans-t said...

The entire story was rubbish. Why was Mike Yates and Kylie even in the story? Any other stock characters would have worked just as well.

Yet again Ben didn't do anything to save the day. Kyle and Katie did it all.

And the only thing to do with Christmas in the entire thing is that it's set at Christmas and the gang watch TotP.

And I hate Anselm. He's a self opinionated b*stard who's just a posher clone of Ben.

And he's a returning character. Is it just me or, apart from Kyle, are the only returning characters the ones who sleep with Ben?

Youth of Australia said...

Think you're right, there.

Mind you, there are tonnes of regulars Spara created that he's abandoned since. Good, bad, and Ben's lust objects,

Operation: Delta, Charles Broxby, Alistair, Genna, K9 Mk 5, Jake Simmonds, Nick, Stephen Poole, Chiara, a string of Brigadier-substitutes...

It goes without saying Kyle is the only character the public like...

Johnstone said...

I've posted this on the "Wolf" thread on the forum but I'm posting it here just in case Spara does what he usually does and ignores the post:

Right Spara, I'm starting to feel sorry for you now. You take a lot of stick, however it is justified. So I'm going to give you some advice about how to make people like your stories:

1) Originality
Every week you give us the same story padded out differently. Stretch the boundaries a little. Give us a different story. You might even want to you know... include the Doctor every now and again.

2) Tweak Ben's character
Everyone apart from 1 or 2 people have told you to change Ben's character. Make him the hero for once and not the guy that distracted the baddie, texted Torchwood, stayed at home and drank absinthe while his friends deal with the monsters. Stop him from sleeping everything that moves.

3) Lose all this classic/canon stuff
You're not impressing anybody. Ben Chatham is a character created by you for your fanfics. He's not canon any more than the character I have created for mine. Also stop being so big headed. Calling your stories "classic" and telling us that they're "canon" just make you look pompus, stupid and big headed. Which I'm sure you're not.

4) Stop telling us what to think and what we can have
It's all very nice that you want a pornographic DVD extra of Tennant/Simm having sex but we all don't. More than that if the world went mad and you got your wish I wouldn't be able to buy the boxset as I'm not 18. I would want the boxset for it's extras such as extended/deleted scanes, video diaries and the trailers and I have just as much right to them as you do. I don't want the vanilla DVD's I want the boxset.

5) Change your approach
The way you talk to people isn't always polite. You claim to "set the standards" however you don't really. You encourage alcoholsim, you have some agenda against under 18's which just isn't called for. Also lose all this "whovianologist" stuff Because A) Whovianologists don't exist and B) If they did you wouldn't be one. I can guess that I've seen more Doctor who than you have and I know more than you but I don't boast about it and I don't call myself a "registered authority". Also you post your fanfics and expect us to read them but you never seem to comment on other peoples fanfics, if you want people to carry on reading then it would be polite and go into other threads and read other peoples work, you never know, you might pick up some good writing skills/ideas while you're there.

Also when people give you advice or ask you a question don't ignore their post.

I've written this with good intentions and I hope you take some, if not all of it, on board.

Ian Bignell said...

Mark Goacher,

I thought that was a very interesting story, and can't wait to see how the characters develop after the events of this story.

Ian Bignell

Youth of Australia said...

Oh dear, Ian.

You may have to live with disappointment. Those characters haven't developed since they were first inflicted onto the world...

Johnstone, good points as ever.

Ian Bignell said...

Youth of Australia

That's a shame. I saw Mark's letter about Ben Chatham in Doctor Who Magazine, and decided to look him up on the internet. I saw your site, which was very odd, and noticed that Mark writes under the pseudonym "Sparacus" (was that an intentional spelling, or a typo that's stuck?). That's how I found this website.

Would I be right in thinking that these stories are unofficial, as there seems to be some debate on here? I presume from the fact that Mr Goacher wrote to Doctor Who Magazine that Ben Chatham will shortly appearing in a more official capacity.

Ian Bignell

Scyther Slitheen said...

I dont think so, Ben Chatham is just like any other fan-fiction creation.

Spara trys to get him noticed offically but in the end he will always be a Fan Fic charater, and there are so many other fan-fiction charaters and storys which are so much better and whould be much more deserving of beging cannon :)

Youth of Australia said...

Youth of Australia
That's a shame.

Indeed. But beyond my control, I'm afraid.

I saw Mark's letter about Ben Chatham in Doctor Who Magazine, and decided to look him up on the internet. I saw your site, which was very odd,
Odd? Odd?! ODD?!?

and noticed that Mark writes under the pseudonym "Sparacus" (was that an intentional spelling, or a typo that's stuck?)
Like much of the esteemed blog administrator's work, it is a mistake he refuses to admit to.

That's how I found this website.
Well, that's lucky...

Would I be right in thinking that these stories are unofficial, as there seems to be some debate on here?
Well, off the top of my head I don't think that a dozen or so descriptions of unwritten stories (most of which are "first drafts" which completely contradict the TV series in every way possible) are official Doctor Who fiction.

In fact, no one bar the owner of this blog thinks that.

I presume from the fact that Mr Goacher wrote to Doctor Who Magazine that Ben Chatham will shortly appearing in a more official capacity.
You presume incorrectly. What evidence is this based on? When was the last time an unknown companion mentioned once in the We Also Heard From section later sprung to widespread acknowledgement and admiration?

Ian Bignell
How much is he paying you, Ian?

Are you The One They Call "Spider"?

Johnstone said...
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Johnstone said...

I'm afraid you're wrong Ian. Spara got an answer from the DWM editor of OG. Too see it have a look here: http://benchathamsux.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

Youth of Australia said...

Or here for easy reference.

Ian Bignell said...

Youth of Australia,

Thank you for your reply, that's cleared up a lot, and sorry for saying your website was odd.

regarding Marks letter, I was thinking it was maybe some form of viral marketing thing, where Doctor Who Magazine gets everybody curious, then fans piece together the evidence for a while, then Ben Chatham is announced as being a new companion.

Clearly I was being a bit too clever, and Ben Chatham doesn't exist outside of Mark Goacher's fan stories.

And no, I am not called Spider by anyone. I don't know Mark, have never been to Cambridge, and until I got the latest Doctor Who Magazine, I'd never heard of Mark Goacher, Ben Chatham or Adam Rickitt.

Ian Bignell

Johnstone said...

Sorry about the bad link before.

Ian, DWM has misguided you. Ben Chatham is nothing more than Sparas w**k fantasies and never will be.

Ian Bignell said...

Johnstone

I don't think it's Doctor Who Magazine's fault I was mislead, just me trying to be clever.

Still, Mark must be confident of his claims, even if he's, as it appears from all the posts from his readers on here, deluded.

I'm actually surprised not to hear from Mr Goacher himself on here, he seems surprised that nobody likes his stories, so my comment would seem to be the sort of thing he'd comment on.

Ian Bignell

Youth of Australia said...

sorry for saying your website was odd.
I should hope so, Bignell. Shooting your mouth off like that; don't they teach you anything at those schools nowadays?

I was thinking it was maybe some form of viral marketing thing, where Doctor Who Magazine gets everybody curious, then fans piece together the evidence for a while, then Ben Chatham is announced as being a new companion.
Why... the hell... would they do that? By placing the letter in the one area of the magazine most people are likely to skip over, and then mock the content of the letter. Not even a "stay tuned" style comment.

Goodness, Bignell, if YOU were attempting such an enterprise, would YOU do what they have done?

Clearly I was being a bit too clever, and Ben Chatham doesn't exist outside of Mark Goacher's fan stories.
"Stories" is a bit of a stretch. Replace with "scribbles" instead.

I don't know Mark
That I find hard to believe.

until I got the latest Doctor Who Magazine, I'd never heard of Mark Goacher, Ben Chatham or Adam Rickitt.
You. Are. Not. Alone.

I'm actually surprised not to hear from Mr Goacher himself on here, he seems surprised that nobody likes his stories, so my comment would seem to be the sort of thing he'd comment on.
Yes, curious how Ian Bignell and Mark Goucher are never seen together at the same time...

Ian Bignell said...

Youth of Australia,

With regards to the strange "clue" I was following, remember that Doctor Who fans are like that, trying to justify the fact that "Astrid" is an anagram of "TARDIS", or that the fob watch has a relationship to the Face of Boe (F.O.B. - Face of Boe, do you see?), it's the sort of small, geeky things we'd go for. But as I've said, I was wrong, so can we please leave this subject be. Thankyou.

Sorry again for being rude about your website, but you must admit, there is something a bit strange about a naked Britney Spears running around being unpopular. Round my way, such a sight would be very popular indeed! Otherwise, oddness aside I found the stories very amusing, and eventually hope to read all of them, and find out why Ben is a girl.

And I am not Mark Goacher, and he is not me. As soon as he dares to visit his own website and responds to my comments, we should hopefully be able to clear this up!

Come on Mark, show yourself!

Ian Bignell

Youth of Australia said...

With regards to the strange "clue" I was following, remember that Doctor Who fans are like that, trying to justify the fact that "Astrid" is an anagram of "TARDIS", or that the fob watch has a relationship to the Face of Boe (F.O.B. - Face of Boe, do you see?), it's the sort of small, geeky things we'd go for. But as I've said, I was wrong, so can we please leave this subject be.
Those who cannot accept their mistakes turn into Colchester History teachers and rot their brains with absinthe...

Sorry again for being rude about your website, but you must admit, there is something a bit strange about a naked Britney Spears running around being unpopular.
"a bit strange"? Sounds as completely ground in reality as anything else, if you ask me...

Otherwise, oddness aside I found the stories very amusing, and eventually hope to read all of them, and find out why Ben is a girl.
Well, I dare say if you seek you shall find.

And I am not Mark Goacher, and he is not me.
Prove it.

As soon as he dares to visit his own website and responds to my comments, we should hopefully be able to clear this up!
Well, that would clear up everything as it's absolutely impossible for one person to have two userIDs... oh, wait, is IS possible.

Come on Mark, show yourself!
He banned the last person who was so familiar...

sparacus said...

Ian

Thanks for your comments and I'm pleased that you enoyed the story.
It is the case that Ben Chatham is companion created by myself in my stories and I am not connected with DWM other than via my letter. As far as I know there are no plans by either DWM or the BBC to feature Ben Chatham or the actor Adam Rickitt in Doctor Who, although a man can live in hope ......

sparacus said...

Seriously though, I will be continuing the Ben Chatham spin off stories in a few weeks after a break.

Youth of Australia said...

although a man can live in hope......
For "hope" read "total denial".

I am not you as were I to be you I would know I was you due to being you however I don't know I'm you so I cannot be you.

...

You are the walrus. Coo-coo-ga-choo.

sparacus said...

Just to clarify, the letter mentioned in DWM regarding Ben Chatham was indeed from me however I have no other connection with the magazine.

Youth of Australia said...

You deleted my comments about Bernie Fishnotes!

You utter chav, Sparacus!

I tell you, when it gets out you're censoring ME of all people, your lonely little blog will be a ghost town! Setting the standards? WHAT standards?

Scyther Slitheen said...

Why did he do that?

Its really unfar! everyone hear should be intiltled to there own opion!

He seems to being going a bit to mad with power...

sparacus said...

This is a moderated blog. Unacceptable posts will be deleted.

Scyther Slitheen said...

But what was wrong with YOA's post? I didnt see anything Unacceptable...

Johnstone said...

Disagreeing with Spara is now obveously unacceptable. I'm fighting that, does that make me chavscum Spara? That's how you write off most people my age group.

Youth of Australia said...

See, it's started all ready.

Like I've said before... WHY does Spara allow ANYONE to comment if he's going to delete everything anyway?

He says (and I quote)
"The main aim of the blog is to share ideas regarding cultural matters. Please keep the discourse polite and respectful."

He should add "The blog administrator reserves the right to erase all evidence that anyone disagrees with him..."

Colin said...

As far as I know there are no plans by either DWM or the BBC to feature Ben Chatham or the actor Adam Rickitt in Doctor Who, although a man can live in hope ......

So, how about your claim that Big Finish were interested in Chatham? Got any back-up for that, or was that another delusion?

Or just a lie?

Youth of Australia said...

Ooh, I know what I vote for out of those options...

Youth of Australia said...

A win-win situation, huh?

Colin said...

So, why did you delete my last post? There was nothing offensive in it, unless your own name revolts you...

Johnstone said...

Mark. You are a coward! All you're doing is showing your inablity to take critisism. It's immature.

So, what are the odds of you deleting this then?

Youth of Australia said...

Now, let's be SERIOUS here, people.

Out of my many posts on this blog, I dare say half of them merit delete for bad language, death threats and insufferability.

Others mention the name of the guy who wrote that letter to DWM about Ben Chatham.

Yet, one group is deleted.

Now, I could be arrogant and say that if my 'BC reviews' were deleted, it would be clear to absolutely everyone I was being censored and this blog's popularity would drop like a stone. Especially since I am (bar Spara himself) the dude that spends most time here. Yeah. I know. Get a life. Move on.

But instead everything mentioning one M*** G******r is deleted without hesitation. Why? If Spara didn't want us to use this name, why tell the whole world what it was?